Jul 13, 2009, 05:36 AM // 05:36
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2008
Profession: A/W
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A Huge Problem in UWSC - Failers
Okay our guild is trying to get some uwsc people because choosing random people in ToA does not seem to work. Okay, I form group in toa and guess what? Tons of failers in the group. Then they don't even offer to pay for the BU when they fail and they just leave. Then that makes it really hard for the time. Also that puts strain on the BU guy because he just wasted 3.5k activating one that he didnt even fail and the failers caused.
Is it me or 70% of the groups you get have failers? This is getting crazy.
A lot of my friends quit UWSC simply because it's pretty much impossible to get a good group in ToA. A lot of guilds don't even offer UWSC.
A find this a big problem in UWSC today. How about you?
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Jul 13, 2009, 05:50 AM // 05:50
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#2
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Feb 2009
Guild: wfls
Profession: Mo/
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Well if everyone wasn't so elitist about it...
PvE'ers complain about when they go to PvP they need ranks, but go to ToA and you see 'NO NOOBS, NO FAIL, YOU FAIL YOU PAY, PRO ONLY' - instead if you people helped one another with UW, you'd be having more successful runs.
But that's a perfect scenario.
Just play with your guild.
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Jul 13, 2009, 05:52 AM // 05:52
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Fissure of Woe
Guild: [LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]
Profession: N/P
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The amount of failers in uwsc is quite substantial. The most effective way to get the most out of your UWSC runs are to build a network of friends who you've noticed aren't terrible. These can be guildies, friends, or people you meet during runs. After a while of paying attention you'll have a general idea of who's terrible and who's reliable, and your success rates will go up. The nice thing about UWSC is that all the areas don't take very long. If there's only 1 failer, it can easily be made up for.
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Jul 13, 2009, 05:53 AM // 05:53
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Imperial Sanctum
Guild: Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]
Profession: E/Me
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would I be that friend?! XD
its just boring now-a-days. if you have the cash, pay for it. I get my BU's free, but thats with farming
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Jul 13, 2009, 06:22 AM // 06:22
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#5
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2008
Profession: A/W
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I'm sorry but I just got a run. I finished before everyone and 5/8 failed and then last one killed reaper.
/facepalm epic fail
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Jul 13, 2009, 06:38 AM // 06:38
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#6
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: Commence Aggro [BaMf]
Profession: Mo/E
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Most fail runs consist of bad spawns, lag, rogue monsters, lag, bad pulling, lag, real life problems, lag, and early reaper-popping. And lag.
My advice; join an elite area farming guild and play among those that succeed or are just invulnerable to lag.
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Jul 13, 2009, 06:43 AM // 06:43
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#7
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Profession: R/
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Another huge problem - UWSC exists in the first place >.>
Anyways, the super leet UWSC pros are real dicks about everything. If they would help instead of criticize, there might be less failers around.
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Jul 13, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55
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#8
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NJ, America
Guild: The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eGaming
Well if everyone wasn't so elitist about it...
PvE'ers complain about when they go to PvP they need ranks, but go to ToA and you see 'NO NOOBS, NO FAIL, YOU FAIL YOU PAY, PRO ONLY' - instead if you people helped one another with UW, you'd be having more successful runs.
But that's a perfect scenario.
Just play with your guild.
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Gonna have to agree.
Seriously I tried it once and I did wastes cause its the easiest. No, I didn't die, but someone aggroed something into one of the lost souls or w/e when we were 9/10 and everyone started flipping out on them like it was the apocalypse while I just sat there where the chest spawns. Also the fact that UWSC exists is definitely a problem.
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Jul 13, 2009, 07:11 AM // 07:11
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#9
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2008
Profession: A/W
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Well it just makes me mad, I work hard at UWSC, I do it, a lot of ppl fail.. they leave... no bu... hard time... you see my point?
I agree UWSC shouldn't been made. But I find it rewarding and fun and thats why I do it.
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Jul 13, 2009, 09:03 AM // 09:03
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#10
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: Heroes of Elonia [HE]
Profession: W/Rt
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So don't take PUGs.
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Jul 13, 2009, 09:32 AM // 09:32
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#11
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Guild Hall
Profession: R/
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Form up with friends/guildies/allies.
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Jul 13, 2009, 10:34 AM // 10:34
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#12
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2009
Guild: Knight Of Echovald[KoE]
Profession: A/
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Ok, in this aspect i must agree with tankur... I started uwscing as chamber, found it incredibly easy and rewarding, moved on to plains and so on... after 3 weeks, i manage to do all areas except for mtns (somehow die in the process all the time). and i have the same problem as you: ok, 8/8, sometimes after 3 mins 3 guys are dead at run to plains... my suggestion:
go wastes or pits (these drop the most ectos, from what i conclude, and are pretty fast to do)... go a/e pits so u can cover other areas (alot slower and more dangerous, but u can do it)
take a BU with you just in case ur group fails
the BU: 2 utilities for it: if u see ur run isn't gonna work out because one area cant be completed by any members (mtns, for example), or if necro died and u have no scrolls, use it for farming, as simple as that. with a/e pits(thats why u took a/e), you can farm plains, pools and wastes with one BU... its so worth it. wastes same thing. You'll probably gain 3-4 ectos just with that, more than a chest run+ your area usually
2 utility: if you see only 1-2 areas died and the run can easily be a chest run, use it for the chest... you get 1 ecto (covers BU, even if failer doesn't pay), maybe more, picks, keys and maybe an e blade or so... (its worth it)+ since ur BU wont have expired yet... you can go farm till it ends.... even more ectos^^
so, basically, imo, uwsc is fairly bad... what IS good is the oportunity to have a conset on you for 1k and be able to farm the hell out of uw in matters off minutes....
hope this helped u make more $$$
Last edited by the slasher; Jul 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM // 10:39..
Reason: spelling mistakes^^
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Jul 13, 2009, 10:51 AM // 10:51
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#13
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leet Tankur
Well it just makes me mad, I work hard at UWSC
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No such thing.
You want the fast way, you have to pay for the price. The faster you do something, the bigger chance of failure.
You could always start doing UW like it was supposed to be done.
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Jul 13, 2009, 01:50 PM // 13:50
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#14
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the slasher
Ok, in this aspect i must agree with tankur... I started uwscing as chamber, found it incredibly easy and rewarding, moved on to plains and so on... after 3 weeks, i manage to do all areas except for mtns (somehow die in the process all the time). and i have the same problem as you: ok, 8/8, sometimes after 3 mins 3 guys are dead at run to plains... my suggestion:
go wastes or pits (these drop the most ectos, from what i conclude, and are pretty fast to do)... go a/e pits so u can cover other areas (alot slower and more dangerous, but u can do it)
take a BU with you just in case ur group fails
the BU: 2 utilities for it: if u see ur run isn't gonna work out because one area cant be completed by any members (mtns, for example), or if necro died and u have no scrolls, use it for farming, as simple as that. with a/e pits(thats why u took a/e), you can farm plains, pools and wastes with one BU... its so worth it. wastes same thing. You'll probably gain 3-4 ectos just with that, more than a chest run+ your area usually
2 utility: if you see only 1-2 areas died and the run can easily be a chest run, use it for the chest... you get 1 ecto (covers BU, even if failer doesn't pay), maybe more, picks, keys and maybe an e blade or so... (its worth it)+ since ur BU wont have expired yet... you can go farm till it ends.... even more ectos^^
so, basically, imo, uwsc is fairly bad... what IS good is the oportunity to have a conset on you for 1k and be able to farm the hell out of uw in matters off minutes....
hope this helped u make more $$$
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Honestly, this. If you don't know anyone reliable that does UWSC, you might as well make the best of it. When I buy a conset and start a group, I always do plains because there's a good chance of an ecto or two. The last couple of runs for me have been runs that can't be completed. I knew right then to start farming so I could make up for losses. I didn't make anything, but atleast I didn't lose money.
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Jul 13, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34
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#15
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2009
Guild: Knight Of Echovald[KoE]
Profession: A/
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well... i was saying to take a BU assuming u go a/e with iau!... and cause most pugs need mtns and vale to go, you'll probably be leading 60% of your uwsc runs... anyhow, even though you can do it, I don't suggest doing mtns or vale sin as your initial area... most of the time, you'll end up losing 1k+30-60 minutes.... which is obviously just a waste
edit: if you feel like farming abit more of uwsc, instead of the run, go into a group with this template:
and say you are pools(watch out, this is harder than with feigned), and do your area, obviously +4h... advantage is, this build can actually farm pits very quickly due to rad field, can farm plains, wastes, chamber and pools (dah!)... so, if ou know how to use it correctly and fast... and have abit of exp to be able to pull 2 groups or more at plains... you can clear all those areas+ the farming mobs you dont strictly need to kill for the run within the time of a conset + BU
this will greatly increase your ecto drops, i hope... and you can always impress your team covering 4 or 5 areas, only thing you can not do is vale (mtns may be abit hard, but doable if exp)
and best: i added DC instead of feigned exactly for this one sole reason: makes the build a solo build(not recommended though, cause u pay 4k for a BU, and only 1k for a conset (which is actually better))... just enter UW, use ur BU, take clear chamber, aggro like chamber does and DC to the last enemie of you very tight group.. you will eventually be teleported to the backs of the grasps + aatxes, and will be able to body block them... spam rad field till grasps are dead, and your done.... go farm^^ (still is better do enter a regular uwsc run though)
hope this helped
Last edited by the slasher; Jul 13, 2009 at 07:43 PM // 19:43..
Reason: had an idea
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Jul 13, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44
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#16
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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We're not having a thread dedicated to flaming the community of this game. That's not what gaming forums are for.
Closed.
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